Do you ever meet people in this life that you are immediately drawn to? What is the defining factor for you? For us, often it's a blend of grit, charisma, authenticity and a multifaceted skillset - which this episode's guest certainly has in spades!

Like many of the equestrian parents we've spoken to, Ali Surrey Dane has multiple hats to wear...

• She runs and owns a livery yard - ⁠Hurston Dressage and Eventing⁠

• She's a ⁠British Dressage Coaching Certificate⁠ L3 coach and List 3 British Dressage judge

• She's a rider (although seems to take that title with a pinch of salt!)

• She's a Non-Executive Director for both the ⁠British Grooms Association⁠ and the ⁠Equestrian Employers Association⁠

• Of course, she's also a mummy, too - to one gorgeous little boy, Rafael!

How does she do it all... we'll never really know! But, on a sunny day in mid-March, we got up close and personal with the wonderful lady, herself.

In this episode, listeners can hear a little bit more about...

• What Ali really think the equestrian industry needs more of (Clue: it's not horses!)

• How she managed to buy herself a little Lusitano gelding... and not a big warmblood mare?

• How a rough pregnancy doesn't necessarily mean a slow return to riding!

• Her son and his namesake

• How equestrian employers need to make changes for parents to sustain their own businesses

• Plus, much more... in true Equestrian Mums Club fashion!