What does fatherhood really look like... versus the picture he has in his head pre-kids?! (Spoiler alert: It's a bit different!)

On this episode of the Equestrian Mums Club podcast, Sophie's flying solo to have a chat with her co-host - Katie's - husband and long-suffering "horse widow", Simon!

Listen in to this episode to hear more about:

• The infamous "meet cute" for he and Katie... with an unlikely location!

• How he (a self-confessed non-equestrian) really feels about having horses in his back garden

• His take on their late pregnancy news

• How he is navigating fatherhood, in the midst of his own grief

• His thoughts on his Katie's transition to motherhood

• The (unusual!) phrase he keeps in mind, to remember to make the best of every situation

It's rare we get the non-horsey side of the coin on this podcast... so take a seat and get ready to listen along to the real, authentic story of someone "equestrian by association"!

Please note: Some of the topics we discuss in this episode some listeners may find challenging - including grief and loss of a parent. We advise listener discretion.